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Post by Capo on Jul 22, 2007 23:59:22 GMT
Gerry Gus Van Sant 2001 USA / Argentina / Jordan Two friends on a day's hiking trip casually stroll off path and become lost. A film largely improvised and ironically dealing with the perils of improvisation; it is astonishing to look at, with many long takes giving otherwise ordinary images of two men walking a surreal, unfamiliar edge. Van Sant will often cut to an empty shot of mountainous terrain and hold the camera there, and because of the rather abstract visual of such framing, the viewer cannot tell how close or how far away the camera is from the rock, how big the rock is, or where the characters will enter and how big they will be - close up or in the distance? It's a unique way in conveying the increasing anonymity of the two characters as they walk further into peril. Recommendable to friends as a kind of endurance test.
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Post by Blib on Aug 2, 2008 22:46:53 GMT
Gerry (2002)
Recommendable to friends as a kind of endurance test. Agreed. Endurance needed. I completely respect what Gus Van Sant was trying to do here. It just didn't work for me. I enjoyed the long sections of scenery and silence, which was mostly their footsteps and quiet weather sound effects, but many of the long interesting camera shots went on way too long. For example there was a shot that seemed to go on for minutes too long. It was a side shot of both of the two main characters faces (Casey Affleck and Matt Damon) as they trudge along in the desert, lost. For a while I thought it was a great camera angle but it just went on forever. It's not that I didn't like the long-running camera shots, I did, I just felt like almost every shot could have been cut down by about 20% and it would have been better. Even then it would be pushing it's limits, but I would have enjoyed the movie more. There was one specific shot that I particularly enjoyed which lasted seven minutes (again slightly too long) where both characters start off in the dark and all you can see are the tops of their heads silhouetted against the dusk sky. As they walk, taking tiny slow steps, it gets lighter and lighter until you can see their whole body silhouetted against the ground and eventually the ground detail as well. It really showed the hopelessness of their situation and near defeat. I wanted to like it, especially after watching Van Sant's Elephant before it. Elephant seemed more calculated in it's long camera shots whereas Gerry was obviously improvised throughout and was given a bad overall timing in the editing process. Capo, and others, what did you think of this scene: *Spoilers* The scene near the end where they are laying in the desert and Affleck's character first says "So how's the hike going so far?" then shortly after says "I'm leaving now." Then Damon's character reaches over and apparently strangles him to death. Very odd. I guess we are supposed to assume that this was something they discussed ahead of time in order to put one or the other out of their misery. I'm further assuming that Van Sant was trying to go for that shocking, broken-hearted ending where if they had only walked a little further instead of Damon killing Affleck they would have lived because the highway was right there.
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Post by svsg on Aug 3, 2008 0:36:32 GMT
I think that scene was intended for a tragic and shocking effect. I love the way Matt Damon sprints to the car, just moments after he (along with casey) is shown to have almost zero energy left.
I think the long shots were directly influenced by Bela Tarr's movies. If you thought Van Sant's scenes are a little too long, you would feel the same way about Tarr.
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Post by Capo on Aug 3, 2008 18:32:07 GMT
SPOILERS Or are there even two characters? They're both called Gerry, for one (they also call a missed or wrong turn a "gerry"), and there are hints throughout that it's just two different traits of the same character: the weak, easily defeated character who wants to cry, and the strong flip-side who has to conquer the weak tendencies within himself. Affleck is always the one who risks overcoming the pair with his weakness; Damon has to kill him. Just a theory; take it or leave it. END SPOILERS
As for shot-length, it's necessarily immersive, hypnotic, frustrating, whatever. Two guys lost in a seemingly endless desert? What better way to capture that; form meeting content, there. The longer the camera holds on their faces in close-up, or on their fragile figures in the harsh terrain, the more chance you have of "forgetting" the literal meaning; it takes on an almost transcendent experience. Gruelling, challenging, beautiful. Like I said in my review above, the length of the shots is what distinguishes them. It provokes interest from otherwise normality.
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Post by Blib on Aug 7, 2008 2:03:54 GMT
That theory makes a lot of sense. Even after my bad review I'll probably watch this movie again eventually now that you point that out.
As far as the long camera shots... I admit I'm still trying to find out who I am as a film fan. I know I'm not, and probably never will be, on the level of most of you here where you can look at every aspect of a movie and analyze each and every little thing artistically and and technically (I think Gerry is a perfect example of both). However, I am surrounded by friends and family who would be considered "casual moviegoers" and I bore them to death with movies I enjoy most of the time. Especially movies I find out about here on FCM and excited to show to others.
So maybe I will become more analytical or maybe I will just give in to the fact that I like crap. I hope I end up learning more rather than giving in.
svsg pointed out that I might not like Bela Tarr's movies because of the long camera shots. I will still give his movies a shot though because there is always a chance that I might come around and understand and enjoy something I didn't before.
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Post by Blib on Aug 7, 2008 2:05:10 GMT
By the way, I'm drunk, so I hope that last post made sense. I'm not announcing that I'm drunk because I'm proud, I just want that to be known if the last post seems like gibberish.
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