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Post by RNL on Feb 25, 2008 18:41:45 GMT
I vote no to #1, and I'm indifferent to #2, but I doubt I'll be able to come up with five nominees.
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Post by Omar on Feb 25, 2008 20:20:34 GMT
I echo wetdog. I don't know what to think for that category.
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Post by jrod on Feb 25, 2008 20:35:21 GMT
My votes, only did 3 in most technical categories
Best Film
There Will Be Blood Eastern Promises Juno No Country for Old Men The King of Kong<<<
Best Directing
Anderson, There Will Be Blood Cronenberg, Eastern Promises Greengrass, Bourne Ultimatium Coens, NCFOM Fincher, Zodiac
Best Leading Male Daniel Day Lewis, There Will Be Blood Casey Affleck, Gone Baby Gone Matt Damon, Bourne Ultimatium George Clooney, Michael Clayton Jake Glyhennhal, Zodiac
Best Supporting Male
Paul Dano, There Will Be Blood Javier Bardhem, NCFOM Paul Giamatti, Shoot em Up Robert Downey Jr., Zodiac Josh Brolin, American Gangster
Best Leading Female
Ellen Page, Juno Marion Collatard, La Vie En Rose Naomi Watts, Eastern Promises Katherine Heigl, Knocked Up Rose McGowan, Planet Terror
Best Supporting Female Amy Ryan, Gone Baby Gone Michelle Mogahan, Gone Baby Gone Kiera Knightley, Atonment Jennifer Garner, Juno Tilda Swinton, Michael Clayton
Best Original Screenplay Juno Zodiac (not really based on the book is it?...more a story of why he wrote the book?) Ratatouille
Best Adapted Screenplay NCFOM There Will Be Blood Atonement
Best Mise-en-scène There Will Be Blood NCFOM Atonement
Best Cinematography There Will Be Blood NCFOM Atonement
Best Editing There Will Be Blood Bourne Ultimatium NCFOM
Best Sound Design Bourne Ultimatium There Will Be Blood 3:10 to Yuma
Best Production Design There Will Be Blood NCFOM Atonement
Best Costume Design Pirates of the Carribean 3 300 There Will Be Blood
Best Makeup Design Pirates of the Caribbean 3 Atonement There Will Be Blood
Best Visual Effects Transformers Spiderman 3 There Will Be Blood
Best Original Score NCFOM There Will Be Blood 3:10 to Yuma
Worst Film Spiderman 3 Smokin Aces (2006 but no one had seen it...?) Ghost Rider 4: Rise of the silver surfer
Retrospective: Best Film of 2006 Little Miss Sunshine Childern of Men The Departed Inland Empire Pan's Labrintyh
Best Artistic Achievement There Will Be Blood NCFOM Atonement Zodiac Bourne Ultimatium
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Post by Capo on Feb 25, 2008 21:53:30 GMT
It's an old question, but I'm just curious:
How do you people judge "Best Direction"?
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Post by RNL on Feb 25, 2008 22:17:04 GMT
It's hard to say.
Take Eastern Promises, for instance. The script isn't anything very special (which I say, of course, having not read it...), but, as someone on the CHUD boards put it, "Cronenberg directs the shit out of it." The reason that the film is as good as it is is down almost entirely to Cronenberg's direction. So in a way he deserves all the more credit for his overcoming the script's deficiencies. Maybe even the fact that he showed himself capabale of excellent genre filmmaking, a field in which direct comparison is necessary in evaluation.
It should go without saying (because saying it--as I'm about to--is deflating) that splitting an artistic collaboration up into constituent 'roles', and thereby dividing a complete artwork up into a mere sum result of those 'roles', is an activity that has no basis in reason and is actually vulgar in its irrelevance.
But I don't want my Best Film and Best Director categories to be synonymous, so I'll be trying to take a different view of them.
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Post by Capo on Feb 25, 2008 22:28:12 GMT
But I don't want my Best Film and Best Director categories to be synonymous, so I'll be trying to take a different view of them. Nor me. It's why I asked.
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Post by RNL on Feb 26, 2008 0:14:48 GMT
You know, the problem with allowing IMDb 2006 titles into consideration is that the Retrospective award suffers in a big way.
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Post by jrod on Feb 26, 2008 0:33:39 GMT
It's an old question, but I'm just curious: How do you people judge "Best Direction"? Being only moderatley technically knowledgeable, directing and how good a movie is usually do tend to be synonymous. Juno made me laugh a lot, which I mainly contribute to the writing and delivery from the actors (and even with the actors the director is doing take after take until he gets a few he wants right? theoretically pt anderson could probably make a movie of ddl's bad takes and make him look laughably bad). So because I thought Juno was more Page's and Cody's than Reitman's, I gave Fincher a director nom instead. Usually however I see the director as the main overseer. I can think of several movies I love with terrible writing and/or acting. I CAN'T think of any terrible movies with great direction.
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Post by RNL on Feb 26, 2008 0:51:23 GMT
You know, the problem with allowing IMDb 2006 titles into consideration is that the Retrospective award suffers in a big way. ...unless of course we extend the coverage of that category back into 2005, which would make sense. I do like this idea, as I think it's more honestly representative of the board's tastes and values and experiences than strict adherence to IMDb is.
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Post by jrod on Feb 26, 2008 0:54:38 GMT
i concur
when is the deadline for these again? I reserve my right to edit my post until then. I just did it today because Ill be really busy mosy of the time for the next short while
and has a best antimated film category been discussed?
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Post by RNL on Feb 26, 2008 0:56:49 GMT
Sunday 16th March is the deadline for nominations.
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Post by RNL on Feb 26, 2008 0:58:12 GMT
I'd like a Best Animated Film category, I think.
I really want to watch those shorts that were up for Oscars, they look amazing.
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Post by jrod on Feb 26, 2008 0:59:20 GMT
Netflix has Sundance shorts in their Watch Instantly feature. Might go through a bunch of those tonight
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Post by RNL on Feb 26, 2008 1:35:51 GMT
Okay, I've gone through the list of all the IMDb 2006 films I've seen, and I have some questions about eligibility.
It seems to me that Lifted, Nightmare Detective, Curse of the Golden Flower, I Don't Want to Sleep Alone, Old Joy, Still Life, Lights in the Dusk and Private Fears in Public Places are definitely eligible.
I'm not sure about The Host and Half Nelson. Respectively, they were released in the UK and the US in 2006, but then didn't receive, respectively, US and UK releases until 2007. Did they receive any nominations last year? Omar? Kino?
Idiocracy received a limited US run in 2006 and was dumped to DVD everywhere else in 2007. It's not any good, but... is it eligible?
Now, does the fact that one of us had seen a film prior to last year's awards disqualify it for others this year even if we didn't vote for it last year? For instance, I didn't, if I recall correctly, nominate Paris, je t'aime, Time, 300, The Boss of It All, Fast Food Nation, Flanders or The Good German in any catagories last year, but does the fact that I had seen them prior to the awards make them ineligible for others this year? I'm not sure about this...
I certainly nominated Rescue Dawn last year, and I think Capo nominated Climates (right?), so they're out. I wouldn't be surprised if Pherdy nominated Black Book... in fact I'd be surprised if he didn't.
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Post by Omar on Feb 26, 2008 2:10:57 GMT
I'm not sure about Half Nelson. Respectively, it was released in the UK and the US in 2006, but then didn't receive, respectively, US and UK releases until 2007. Did they receive any nominations last year? Omar? Kino? I'm pretty sure that at the time of nominations last year, "Half Nelson" topped my best of 2006 list. I had just watched it again on DVD, and had seen it in August or September of 2006.
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Post by RNL on Feb 26, 2008 2:20:22 GMT
Okay, so that's out then.
Kino, had you seen The Host before last year's awards?
If not, does the fact that it had a wide UK release in November 2006 disqualify it? I think it probably should.
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Post by RNL on Feb 26, 2008 2:58:04 GMT
Syndromes and a Century, Away from Her, Once and Hana are also eligible, as far as I can see.
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Post by Capo on Feb 26, 2008 13:07:41 GMT
Well, our deadline for nominations last year was March 25th. We should make all films with wide theatrical releases between 25th March, 2007 to (say) March 9th, 2008 eligible.
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Post by Kino on Feb 26, 2008 22:12:12 GMT
Yep, nominated The Host for Best Visual Effects and maybe for cinematography as well.
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Post by RNL on Feb 26, 2008 23:39:57 GMT
Well, our deadline for nominations last year was March 25th. We should make all films with wide theatrical releases between 25th March, 2007 to (say) March 9th, 2008 eligible. ? Wide theatrical releases where? Anywhere?
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