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Post by connor on Dec 3, 2007 4:58:39 GMT
Citizen Kane (1941) F for Fake (1972)
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Post by bobbyreed on Mar 18, 2008 2:17:29 GMT
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Post by RNL on Mar 18, 2008 2:46:38 GMT
Would you prefer they released it unfinished?
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Post by bobbyreed on Mar 18, 2008 3:21:47 GMT
I'd like it to be released edited together as close to Welles's notes as possible, without the extra documentary frame.
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Post by RNL on Mar 18, 2008 3:37:33 GMT
But weren't there scenes that were never shot?
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Post by bobbyreed on Mar 18, 2008 3:45:43 GMT
I thought virtually all of it was shot while Welles was still alive. I could be wrong about that.
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Post by Michael on Oct 25, 2008 3:23:14 GMT
1. Citizen Kane (1941) ****
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Post by svsg on Oct 25, 2008 3:39:45 GMT
I think I am the only one who didn't find Citizen kane interesting. I couldn't even finish the movie. I am planning to rewatch it. I really want to like it and appear cool among the cinema elite ( ), but I seriously suspect that it is going to be even more underwhelming the next time.
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Post by Capo on Oct 25, 2008 7:29:24 GMT
It has a great theme, though.
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Post by RNL on Oct 25, 2008 14:13:01 GMT
I've never understood this notion that Citizen Kane is boring or difficult to engage with. I know a lot of people, maybe most people, would never watch anything made prior to the 1960s, but unless you're that way averse to early cinema, I don't get the disinterest. But it's there, for some reason - people who'd happily watch Casablanca or Double Indemnity nevertheless find Kane difficult.
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Post by pimppanda on Oct 28, 2008 2:11:52 GMT
1. Chimes at Midnight 2. The Magnificent Ambersons 3. F for Fake 4. Touch of Evil 5. The Trial 6. Citizen Kane
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Post by Anasazie on Nov 1, 2008 7:35:23 GMT
Troubled genius who hardly ever made a completely successful picture, for whatever reason. Got to see "F for Fake" soon. Features:1. The Immortal Story (1968) 8/102. Citizen Kane (1941) 8/103. Touch of Evil (1958) 7/104. Chimes at Midnight (1965) 7/105. The Magnificent Ambersons (1942) 7/106. For for Fake (1973) 7/107. The Tragedy of Othello: The Moor of Venice (1952) 6/108. Macbeth (1948) 6/109. The Lady from Shanghai (1947) 6/1010. The Stranger (1946) 5/1011. Filming 'Othello' (1978) 5/1012. Journey Into Fear (1943) 4/10 ??13. The Trial (1963) 4/1014. Mr. Arkadin (1955) 2/10Shorts:1. The Hearts of Age (1934) 5/10
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Post by quentincompson on Nov 3, 2008 18:36:22 GMT
1.The Tragedy of Othello: The Moor of Venice 8/10 2.Citizen Kane 8/10 3.Touch of Evil 7/10 4.The Immortal Story 6/10 5.The Lady from Shanghai 5/10 6.The Stranger 4/10
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Post by theundergroundman on Jan 9, 2009 18:04:54 GMT
1. The Magnificent Ambersons (1942) - [blue]10/10[/blue] 2. Touch of Evil (1958) - [blue]10/10[/blue] 3. F For Fake (1974) - [blue]10/10[/blue] 4. Chimes At Midnight (1965) -[blue] 9/10[/blue] 5. Citizen Kane (1941) - [blue]9/10[/blue] 6. The Tragedy of Othello (1952) - [blue]8.5/10[/blue] 7. The Trial (1962) - [blue]8/10[/blue] 8. The Immortal Story (1968) - 8/10 9. Mr. Arkadin (1955) - [blue]7/10[/blue] 10. It's All True (1993, Uncompleted film) - [blue]6/10[/blue] 11. The Lady From Shanghai (1947) - [blue]6/10[/blue] 12. Macbeth (1948) - [blue]6/10[/blue] 13. The Stranger (1946) - [blue]5/10[/blue]
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1. The Hearts of Age (1934) - [blue]5/10[/blue]
I suppose I've acquired a taste for Welles over the years, and have been able to overlook what is otherwise a largely inconsistent and overbearing oeuvre. I feel Ambersons is one of the most poignant pictures to come out of the Hollywood system and, in spite of the obvious alterations made by RKO, it's a much more mature, eloquent, and personal film than Citizen Kane.
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Post by Capo on Jan 9, 2009 21:11:16 GMT
Welcome to the board, UM.
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Post by Anasazie on Jan 9, 2009 23:14:03 GMT
Yeah welcome UM. I totally agree with the films potential brilliance, but feel i'm rating half a picture personally and just can't hold half a film (no matter how good) in such high esteem. Same goes for Eisenstein's Bezhin Meadow....you can see from the crap that's left how brilliant the film could've been in it's entirety, but i have to look at what's actually left when thinking about the film in terms of greatness.
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Post by Capo on Jul 16, 2009 20:43:30 GMT
If anyone can enlighten me as to what Mr. Arkadin is about, I'd be much obliged. I sat through its wonderful imagery yesterday without any inkling as to what the fuck was going on.
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Post by ronnierocketago on Jul 17, 2009 14:35:54 GMT
From wikipedia:
"Small time smuggler Guy Van Stratten is at the scene of a murder, and the dying man whispers two names that he claims are very valuable, one of which is Gregory Arkadin. Using this small bit of information and lots of bluffing, Van Stratten manages to meet the apparent multi-millionaire business magnate and socialite Arkadin, and Arkadin then hires Van Stratten to research his own past, of which he claims to have no memory before 1927.
Traveling across the world, Van Stratten pieces together Arkadin's past from the few remaining people who knew Arkadin as a gangster in post-WWI Europe, but in each case the individuals he speaks to end up dead. Van Stratten ultimately discovers Arkadin's amnesia was a ruse and that his true purpose was to locate anyone who could still identify Arkadin with his criminal past, so that Arkadin could have them killed. Arkadin is motivated by the need to keep his past a secret from his daughter, and in the film's climax, he and Van Stratten each race to Spain to see her, with disastrous consequences. "
Does that help any?
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Post by svsg on Jul 17, 2009 15:50:30 GMT
FUCK ME Why the hell did I read that ^^^
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Post by svsg on Aug 2, 2009 22:07:28 GMT
I think I am the only one who didn't find Citizen kane interesting. I couldn't even finish the movie. I am planning to rewatch it. I really want to like it and appear cool among the cinema elite ( ), but I seriously suspect that it is going to be even more underwhelming the next time. Citizen Kane
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