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Post by Vercetti on Mar 13, 2006 3:27:18 GMT
My favorite show on TV today. Does anyone else watch it? I know Capo is a fan. Tonight's season premiere was a great episode, though it felt more fast-paced opposed to past episodes. I'm also glad Frank Vincent's role is becoming more significant. I also heard Ben Kingsley will be on this season.
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Post by Capo on Mar 13, 2006 16:45:34 GMT
I'm a massive fan, though if this is to discuss season six, I won't be found anywhere round here; I've gone five seasons, for the most part, with any kind of spoiler-fest, and I don't plan on ruining that tradition.
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Post by Vercetti on Mar 13, 2006 19:44:57 GMT
No need to Capo. We can discuss anything.
Just curious, when does it air on HBO in the UK?
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Post by Capo on Mar 13, 2006 20:54:50 GMT
We don't get HBO here; it's shown by Channel 4, which shows pretty much all of HBO's top shows (Six Feet Under, Sex and the City, etc.). If memory serves correct, it's usually about half a season behind you guys.
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Post by Michael on Mar 19, 2006 5:28:31 GMT
Finally saw episode 1 of the new season tonight. Great episode. Loved the juxtaposition at the end.
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Post by Vercetti on Mar 20, 2006 19:47:19 GMT
Last night was a great episode.
By the way Capo, Moby's "When It's Cold I'd Like to Die" is used in it.
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Post by jrod on Mar 20, 2006 23:56:21 GMT
I really enjoyed it too. The dream sequences actually made me laugh a lot
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Post by Vercetti on Apr 17, 2006 22:45:39 GMT
One of the more hilarious moments of the show.
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Post by Capo on Jul 5, 2006 21:00:03 GMT
Season 6 Spoilers within... Originally posted in the Proview thread. Highlight to read. There is a moment in the penultimate episode of this twelve-part series, wherein Silvio tells Tony, upon hearing of a Capo's death, "This isn't about Vito, this is about you". It is a subtle nod to the form of the season as a whole; the plots dealing with other characters throughout are dealt with only in relation to Tony, and how he reacts to them. Vito's homosexuality may frustrate some, but it certainly allows Chase and co. to expose the mentality behind the Mob. If it is more fragmented (episodic?) than previous seasons, and falls further into inconclusive, inconsistent narrative threads, then it also probes deeper into psychological boundaries and proves insightful of characters, most of whom are revised here to have sides to them the previous five seasons fail to show. The seasons have become more and more mature and slower-paced as the show has progressed, and here the tone is heavily reflective, with characters all in some kind of identity crisis: Paulie finds out he isn't the man he thought he was, Christopher spirals back onto drugs, Carmela philosophises in Paris, and Tony dreams of being Kevin Finnerty whilst in a coma, to mention just a few. The show has developed into a darker, more existential series than some may have liked; its self-reflexivity and increasing intertextuality mark it as a highly clever turn, less about the Mafia than questions of identity, and masculinity in particular. Tellingly, early on in the season, Tony awakens from his coma and mutters, "Who am I? Where am I going?" It could just as easily have been Chase questioning who these creations are, and what is expected of them.
I think season six is destined to be highly misunderstood, and as a result underrated. I'd like to find time to revisit the other five seasons some time soon, but I doubt I will. For some reason, I am leaning towards season four, which I always felt both underwhelmed me in spots but contained some of the best moments the makers were responsible for. I think gut instinct makes season three or five the best.
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Post by Vercetti on Jul 5, 2006 21:04:01 GMT
My only complaint with the season is how small a role some of the characters played, like Junior having three or four total scenes.
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Post by droog on Jul 21, 2006 21:42:24 GMT
The thing about Season 6 that turned a lot of avid Sopranos fans away from the show was the fact that someone wasn't killed every thirty seconds, ha. Season 6 has really focused on family values and I think we will be in for a big surprise when the other half of the season begins in March.
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Post by Boz on Jul 22, 2006 0:57:16 GMT
Didn't like it.
The opening episode could prove to be one of my very favorites with further viewings, but overall, the season was massively dissappointing. Especially the final episode. What the hell was that?
And no, I didn't not like it just because someone didn't die every 30 seconds, it just wasn't good.
I'll still be watching in March though.
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Post by jrod on Jul 23, 2006 20:01:21 GMT
The season sucked. Not because of lack of deaths either, I dont mind that at all.
Too much time on Vito, WAY too much time.
Interesting characters got fucking boring. Chris meeting Ben Kingsley was like a very very poor mans episode of Entourage. The drug addiction story comes back...*yawn*.
Other interesting characters needed more time. Uncle Junior especially.
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Post by Capo on Jul 25, 2006 19:08:03 GMT
Too much time on Vito, WAY too much time. Didn't you find it fascinating to see how different characters reacted to his homosexuality and subsequent disappearance, though? I think Chase took a slight incident from season five, Vito blowing a security guard in a parking lot, and made it the major vehicle on which season six is carried, revealing hitherto unseen sides to these characters.
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Post by Omar on Sept 11, 2006 2:10:10 GMT
College life is making me busy. I'm starting to (sadly) realize that I seldom have time to sit down and watch a 2hour+++ Kurosawa film....
So, I'm taking a little break, and am going to start exploring this show, something I've been meaning to do ever since it first started. I've got the first two seasons at the top of my Netflix queue. I can't wait.
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Post by Omar on Oct 8, 2006 17:34:42 GMT
I thought I liked the show after season one. I thought it was a good show and something that I would enjoy, but I just finished watching Season 2, and I can not believe how amazing this show really is. This season took it to a whole nether level. Where do I start?
SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Tony gets really interesting in this season. You get to see him struggling as a father (loosing his connection with AJ), as a husband (infidelity and whatnot), as a younger brother, and as the monster that lives inside of him. The dreams he had in the season finale were very interesting. Carmela was a character this season that I really felt sorry for. She tries to make the marriage work, but can't find happiness in it. The affair she tried to have didn't work either. And at the party for Richie and Janice, where Carmela goes off to the side and cries, was one of the most revealing aspects of the season; not to mention the saddest. Christopher also had an interesting season as well. At the beginning he's a drug addicted "stock broker", who mistreats his girlfriend and gives up writing. The episode where he attends the acting class was very interesting. And the episode where he visits the film set was great (I loved the cameos throughout the season). But then he gets shot, and even though he survives, his character doesn't play a big part in the rest of the season. Though in the finale, he is promised his long awaited promotion. Dr. Melfi got a lot of character development this season. Her guilt for not taking back Tony at the beginning of the season was interesting, and whoa!, her psychiatrist is Peter Bogdanovich! That was a great surprise. Her struggle with alcoholism became apparent as well. I hope she gets to develop more as the show continues. Silvio and Paulie didn't really have much to do this season, though we do learn of Paulie's generous donations to the church, and we witness his fear of the afterlife. Silvio is probably my least favorite character right now. He seems like a caricature than an actual character. AJ and Meadow had a lot happening with them this season. AJ's confirmation, and his new found existentialist viewpoints, and then of course Meadow's graduation that ended the series. (I love how the series opened and closed with a wonderful montage). Janice was an interesting addition to the show. Quite the opposite of Tony, she provided a new struggle in his life, and provided the season with an interesting character. Furio was my favorite addition to the cast this season. The episode in Italy was a good one, and I'm so glad Furio is now an enforcer for the Soprano crew. Big Pussy, poor guy. I really felt sorry for him this whole season. The scene after AJ's confirmation, with Big Pussy sitting in the bathroom crying... I knew he would be dead eventually, but I was still sad to see him go. Richie Aprile was another great addition to the season. A great villain, yet there was some charm about him that made him interesting. I knew he would be dead by the end of the season, but I never would have thought that it would be Janice that pulled the trigger! Satisfying, in a way.
All in all, a great season. I can't wait to continue.
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Post by Omar on Oct 20, 2006 3:48:53 GMT
I just finished Season 3. I liked it a lot, but I think Season 2 was slightly better.
I loved how the opening of this season was from the point of view of the FBI, watching Tony and his "family". Though I think Livia's "appearance" in the second episode was pointless and laughable.
Tony's new affair with Gloria was wild and crazy, and a lot of development came to light because of it. I like how the show followed Meadow at college. And AJ had a lot of development this season.
The introduction of Ralphie was great, I love Joe Pantoliano. Jackie Jr. is a character I really felt sorry for this season. I thought maybe he could get his act together and go into Men's fashion like he wanted to, with Meadow's support. I was surprised to see him die.
But, I was glad to see Chris get made. And the episode "Pine Barrens" was so far the best episode of the series. I felt like I was watching a creative, tense, and well written short film. The whole flow of the episode was different than anything the show has ever done, and it was really great. The episode where Dr. Melfi got raped was also an interesting one. I'm glad that we got to see her character develop more (though in a sad way), so much so that I referenced this episode in a recent essay I wrote for my writing class. I also liked the appearance of Burt Young, and his final hit. That was a great and very tense sequence. And the random appearance of Father Phil in that episode...I didn't think we'd see him again.
Overall, a really good season, and I look forward to Season 4. Any non-spoiler advice or comments?
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Post by Valenti on Oct 20, 2006 12:04:23 GMT
Steve Buscemi directed "Pine Barrens".
Later on he has a part in the fifth season...I won't spoil anything.
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Post by Capo on Oct 20, 2006 13:50:46 GMT
Overall, a really good season, and I look forward to Season 4. Any non-spoiler advice or comments? Many, at least over on the BB, regard season four to be a low-point. I for one, as you already may know, think the seasons get better and better...or at least, all seem to make sense as a continuous progression. Season three is possibly my standalone favourite; it has all the signs that Chase is moving away from a series, and moving into several different short films to tell one bigger picture. As a result, characters come and go, sometimes going a few episodes without an appearance, other times having entire episodes dedicated to them. You can see this early on in season one, as an experiment, in "College", and then again in "Funhouse", the season two finale, and then again in "Pine Barrens". People loved these episodes, but oddly call them "filler" episodes these days, because Chase has cemented a storytelling pattern into his work ethic. When you see a character feature prominently in one episode, you kind of figure you won't see them again for another few weeks. Anyway, I'm thrilled you're enjoying it; "Pine Barrens" is my favourite episode ever. Season four is very dark. Watch it soon as. And I look forward to your opinions...
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Post by Vercetti on Oct 20, 2006 20:41:15 GMT
"Pine Barrens" is also my favorite.
Tony: (over phone) He was in the Interior Ministry, he killed 16 Czech rebels and is some kind of Russian Green Beret. Paulie:You're not gonna believe this, he killed 16 Czech rebels. He was an interior decorator Chris: His house looked like shit.
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