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Post by Mike Sullivan on Jun 26, 2006 4:56:23 GMT
Well wetdog. To each his own. I'm no expert on what makes people funny but this much certain: It's not so much funny as it is shockingly truthful. That is how I've always found it. It's just the delivery in it all.
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Post by Vercetti on Jun 26, 2006 15:36:57 GMT
Well wetdog. To each his own. I'm no expert on what makes people funny but this much certain: It's not so much funny as it is shockingly truthful. That is how I've always found it. It's just the delivery in it all. I fully agree. I don't even think his wording is forced. It reminds me of his turn for The Aristocrats joke where he improvised an ok version of the joke that was still wordy. I remember one of his stand-ups where he knocked language. One part knocking added words to make things sound more important then they really are, like the prefix "pre" or phrases like "shower activity." The other part was about how words were being sanitized. "It's getting so bad that any day now they'll refer to a rape victim as an 'Unwilling Sperm Recipient." www.carlinstuff.com/media/explicit/euph1.rm
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Post by Vercetti on Jun 26, 2006 16:09:42 GMT
A very true quote from an appearance on the Dennis Miller show.
"They're superstitious, they have these beliefs, these primitive, you know, people believe in a... I mean they're just really kind of credulous, and gullible. People believe in, for instance, hell and angels, okay, these are very primitive, very, very backward to me, backward sounding beliefs, these are child-like, and that's the key, because they get you when you're a kid, they get you when you're little, and they tell you there's a God, and if you can make people believe, I believe this, if you can make someone believe that there's an invisible man, living in the sky, who's watching everything you do, and keeping count of everything you do, which is good and which is bad, then you can make that person believe anything after that, you can add anything you want, the 4th of July shit just rolls right in, land of the free, home of the brave, the press is fair and impartial, justice is blind, all men are created equal, your vote is important, the United States government is on your side, the army is here to keep the peace, the police are on your side...Oh, and freedom of choice, this is the big one, the illusion of choice, we're led to feel free by the exercise of meaningless choices. There are, for instance, important things -- not too many choices, unimportant things-ice cream flavors, what do you want, we've got 31, the flavor of the week, the flavor of the month, but political parties-we're down to two, jeez. Sources of information, media companies down to five, banks, insurance companies, pharmaceuticals, chemical companies, oil companies-used to be seven, down to three, pretty soon it's gonna be two. But if you’re lookin' for a bagel or a fuckin' donut, hey, what do you want-pineapple supreme, hazelnut; we've got everything you want. Cereals, I counted, personally in the store counted 192 different cereal choices, 192. 140 different cat foods, I counted, and that includes a tartar-control cat food for senior citizen cats, okay?"
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Post by Capo on Jun 26, 2006 16:46:08 GMT
I've watched the first four clips. I find him terribly unfunny. It must be said I'm not a massive fan of standup in the first place. He tends to labour his point; if he is more truthful than he is funny, he needs plenty of time to get his point across. Or spends longer than he needs to.
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Post by Michael on Jun 27, 2006 0:30:54 GMT
Ouch. This guy is painfully unfunny. Wow.
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Post by Mike Sullivan on Jun 27, 2006 4:07:02 GMT
I think the both of you should give him more justice. Attacks on his diction or whathave you are kind of stupid, considering that this is a man who loves language. Hell, as a kid his favorite book was a dictionary and some of his greatest bits involve language.
I think he gets his points accross very quickly and doesn't have to stress it either. It's rehersed like that of all comics but he delivers it in such a way where there is still spontanaity in it all and feeling and he easily can defend his points.
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Post by RNL on Jun 27, 2006 13:02:23 GMT
I don't think there sounds like there's any spontaneity to it, and the fact that he loves language doesn't necessarily mean, or even imply, that he uses it well.
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Post by Vercetti on Jun 27, 2006 16:01:07 GMT
For once I fully agree with Mike. No one has hit me so hard humor-wise then Carlin.
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