Capo
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Nov 10, 2006 8:57:20 GMT
Post by Capo on Nov 10, 2006 8:57:20 GMT
1999 Please post up to ten favourite films from this year. Consult this page to confirm the year of release for a film. Thanks.
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Nov 10, 2006 8:57:53 GMT
Post by Capo on Nov 10, 2006 8:57:53 GMT
_1. Julien Donkey-Boy Harmony Korine _2. American Beauty Sam Mendes _3. Eyes Wide Shut Stanley Kubrick _4. The Straight Story David Lynch _5. Mayis sikintisi Clouds of May Nuri Bilge Ceylan _6. Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai Jim Jarmusch _7. Bleeder Nicolas Winding Refn _8. Magnolia Paul-Thomas Anderson _9. The Insider Michael Mann 10. Odishon Audition Takashi Miike
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Boz
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Nov 10, 2006 11:48:16 GMT
Post by Boz on Nov 10, 2006 11:48:16 GMT
1. Magnolia Paul Thomas Anderson[/color] 2. Fight Club David Fincher[/color] 3. American Beauty Sam Mendes[/color] 4. Election Alexander Payne[/color] 5. The Matrix Larry and Andy Wachowski[/color] 6. American Pie Paul and Chris Weitz[/color] 7. The Limey Steven Sodebergh[/color] 8. Office Space Mike Judge[/color] 9. Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me Jay Roach[/color] 10. Analyze This Harold Ramis[/color]
Edit: Didn't realize Office Space was this year.
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Omar
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Nov 10, 2006 14:33:10 GMT
Post by Omar on Nov 10, 2006 14:33:10 GMT
1. American Beauty (Sam Mendes) 2. Election (Alexander Payne) 3. Being John Malkovich (Spike Jonze) 4. Magnolia (Paul Thomas Anderson) 5. The Insider (Michael Mann) 6. The Sixth Sense (M. Night Shyamalan) 7. Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai (Jim Jarmusch) 8. Three Kings (David O. Russell) 9. The Talented Mr. Ripley (Anthony Minghella) 10. Eyes Wide Shut (Stanley Kubrick)
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Nov 10, 2006 16:43:04 GMT
Post by The Ghost of LLC on Nov 10, 2006 16:43:04 GMT
One of my favorite years in film.
1.) Fight Club (David Fincher) 2.) Being John Malkovich (Spike Jonze) 3.) Magnolia (Paul Thomas Anderson) 4.) Eyes Wide Shut (Stanley Kubrick) 5.) American Beauty (Same Mendes) 6.) Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai (Jim Jarmusch) 7.) Office Space (Mike Judge) 8.) The Straight Story (David Lynch) 9.) The Talented Mr. Ripley (Anthony Minghella) 10.) The Insider (Michael Mann)
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Boz
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Nov 10, 2006 18:29:01 GMT
Post by Boz on Nov 10, 2006 18:29:01 GMT
Am I really the only Matrix fan here?
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Nov 10, 2006 19:13:58 GMT
Post by The Ghost of LLC on Nov 10, 2006 19:13:58 GMT
Yes.
Go away. Please.
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RNL
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Nov 11, 2006 2:30:30 GMT
Post by RNL on Nov 11, 2006 2:30:30 GMT
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Boz
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Nov 11, 2006 9:15:46 GMT
Post by Boz on Nov 11, 2006 9:15:46 GMT
TSP's top films from this year:
1. All About My Mother 2. Eyes Wide Shut 3. The Wind Will Carry Us 4. The Matrix 5. Fight Club 6. Topsy-Turvy
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jrod
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Nov 13, 2006 0:45:36 GMT
Post by jrod on Nov 13, 2006 0:45:36 GMT
1. American Beauty 2. Eyes Wide Shut 3. Any Given Sunday 4. Office Space 5. Fight Club 6. South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut 7. Election 8. Green Mile, The 9. Man on the Moon 10. Magnolia
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Boz
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Nov 13, 2006 8:27:53 GMT
Post by Boz on Nov 13, 2006 8:27:53 GMT
I caught the first half an hour or so of Any Given Sunday on TV not too long ago and it seemed much better than its reputation. I did a little reading and discovered its main flaw is supposedly its absurd length. What were your thoughts jrod?
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Nov 14, 2006 7:20:14 GMT
Post by jrod on Nov 14, 2006 7:20:14 GMT
Im a huge sports junkie, as are most of my friends.
Not being movie buffs really, I think they (and most) approach this movie expecting Rememeber the Titans or Two For the Money.
Overall, the movie is a fair and slightly over the top cross section of a professional football team (not NFL licensed, but thats the implication, they reference old greats like Joe Montana). There isnt a big overall point to this movie, but it brings up several interesting things. It shows football like it is. Just a bunch of different stuff that happens week after week.
I dont like many Oliver Stone movies, funny Id like the one the critics slaughtered the most
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RNL
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Nov 29, 2006 0:01:50 GMT
Post by RNL on Nov 29, 2006 0:01:50 GMT
I've added L'humanité at #8. As you can see I've left Audition on there; that's because I eventually want to have a ranked list of every film I've seen from each year. I just have to update my Excel file with the IMDb dates first. I know not everyone voting keeps a spreadsheet of all the films they've seen, but it'd be handy to be able to see what pool people are taking their picks from. Plus having a ranked list of films for each year would just be neato.
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Boz
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Nov 29, 2006 1:49:36 GMT
Post by Boz on Nov 29, 2006 1:49:36 GMT
Wetdog what are you thoughts on Magnolia?
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RNL
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Nov 29, 2006 14:56:53 GMT
Post by RNL on Nov 29, 2006 14:56:53 GMT
It used to be in my Top 5 of all time. I still think it's excellent, its variety of imaginative stylistic flourishes and its stubborn sense of weirdness lift it way, way above the level of the average multi-character soap opera it could've been in other hands.
Though Anderson claims he'll probably never make a better movie, I think he's wrong.
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Nov 29, 2006 19:09:49 GMT
Post by Michael on Nov 29, 2006 19:09:49 GMT
It used to be in my Top 5 of all time. I still think it's excellent, its variety of imaginative stylistic flourishes and its stubborn sense of weirdness lift it way, way above the level of the average multi-character soap opera it could've been in other hands. Yeah, it's too bad Anderson completely ripped off Robert Altman. In fact, you could say the same thing for Boogie Nights and Scorsese. Does PTA have any ideas of his own?
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RNL
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Nov 29, 2006 22:02:55 GMT
Post by RNL on Nov 29, 2006 22:02:55 GMT
Yeah... to rip off means to steal; Anderson didn't steal anything from Altman. Altman is his biggest cinematic influence, however. Artists do influence eachother. Magnolia bears the kind of superficial similarities to Nashville or Short Cuts that are the stuff of homage. Anderson's narrative style resembles Scorsese's far more than it does Altman's, his camera has the same eclectic energy as Scorsese's. His characters also have pasts and futures, theirs are intersecting stories, and their pasts are what connect them - Altman is undermining the conventions of storytelling with Nashville and Short Cuts, his characters exist to facilitate their intersections. That's a difference so fundamental that the constant comparisons between the films, and especially charges of Anderson "ripping off" Altman, baffle me. Anderson is telling multiple stories, Altman is trying not to tell any, and tell you about the telling instead.
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Omar
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Nov 29, 2006 22:26:08 GMT
Post by Omar on Nov 29, 2006 22:26:08 GMT
Anderson is telling multiple stories, Interestingly enough, on the special features of "Magnolia", he declares over and over again that the film is 'one story'. I don't agree, though.
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Nov 29, 2006 22:39:03 GMT
Post by Michael on Nov 29, 2006 22:39:03 GMT
To me, Anderson basically took Altman's concept, changed up the stories, added a cool soundtrack, and replaced the earthquake with raining frogs. I enjoyed the film, but it's totally unoriginal.
I think there's a difference between influence and flat out stealing someone's ideas. Michael Haneke is clearly influenced by Robert Bresson, but still maintains his own style, uses his own ideas and remains totally original. I don't see that in Magnolia.
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RNL
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Nov 29, 2006 23:04:44 GMT
Post by RNL on Nov 29, 2006 23:04:44 GMT
Stories centering on causality have been around since Ancient Greek theatre.
Altman basically took Aristotle's concept, took Raymond Carver's characters, and... there you have it: Short Cuts.
You can't steal ideas. Stealing is where I take it from you and you don't have it anymore. You can gather extant ideas, and you can create new ideas. No work of art is built entirely from newly created ideas: not Altman's, not Anderson's, not the works of the Ancient Greek dramatists. Altman didn't do much in Short Cuts that he didn't already do in Nashville, by the way.
Magnolia and Short Cuts only bear superficial similarities. Visually they're not at all similar; as I said, Anderson's camera does not behave even remotely like Altman's. Magnolia has a much stranger atmosphere than Short Cuts, the characters are far more peculiar and their interconnections evoke a sense of the magical or karmic, whereas in Short Cuts it's simple coincidence and happenstance. Anderson is telling multiple stories, Altman is not... actually, just see my previous post.
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