RNL
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Post by RNL on Dec 13, 2005 23:38:29 GMT
_1. The Isle (2000) 8/10_2. Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter... and Spring (2003) 8/10_3. 3-Iron (2004) 8/10_4. Samaritan Girl (2004) 7/10_5. Bad Guy (2001) 7/10_6. The Bow (2005) 6/10_7. Time (2006) 6/10_8. Address Unknown (2001) 6/10_9. Breath (2007) 6/1010. The Coast Guard (2002) 5/10
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Post by Pherdy on Dec 29, 2005 13:00:51 GMT
2001: Bad Guy 2003: Spring Summer Fall Winter Spring 2004: Bin-Jip 2004: Samaria I must see The Isle and Hwal (2005) soon, because this guy makes wonderful, poetic films. My personal favorite auteur filmmaker of today, although the auteur concept is old fashioned. He is the frontman of the golden Korean generation of recent years, I think.
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Post by mikola on Apr 27, 2006 19:39:53 GMT
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Post by jake on Jun 11, 2006 14:17:11 GMT
1. Bom yeoreum gaeul gyeoul geurigo bom (2003) 2. Bin-jip (2004) 3. Samaria (2004) 4. Nabbeun namja (2001) 5. Shilje sanghwang (2000)
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Post by RNL on Feb 7, 2007 21:54:29 GMT
The Strange Case of Director Kim Ki-duk. “... My movies are lamentable for uncovering the genitals that everyone wants to hide; I am guilty for contributing only incredulity to an unstable future and society; and I feel shame and regret for having wasted time making movies without understanding the feelings of those who wish to avoid excrement even though they have eaten well.” ;D What a cool thing to say.
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Post by kizz on May 29, 2007 14:51:59 GMT
My favorite director!
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Post by RNL on May 29, 2007 15:06:19 GMT
Welcome to the boards!
How would you rank his films?
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Post by RNL on Oct 27, 2007 0:32:27 GMT
'Misogyny' is as diluted a term as 'racism'. A word meaning 'hatred of women' has come to be applied to any portrayal of a female character who does not symbolise progressive feminist politics. Much like the mere acknowledgment of ethnicity as a character trait can often be dubbed 'racism'. It's stupid. Talk about stripping a word of its significance...
Artists must be granted the right to create characters without being forced to fret over their meaning when interpreted as archetypes. A woman in a film is not necessarily representative of the broader concept of 'women'.
What can be said about the women in Kim's films, though?
Obviously prostitution is a recurring theme and plot device (The Isle, Address Unknown, Bad Guy, Samaritan Girl), and the girl in The Bow is essentially the property of a man - and content as such. Is that invalid subject matter for a male storyteller? The central female characters in Bad Guy and 3-Iron are helpless victims, but their relationships with the respective central males couldn't be more different. Several of his female characters are psychotic, as in The Isle and Time, but only in the latter is the male protagonist on any kind of even keel. In fact, since the protagonist in Time is a filmmaker who's in the process of editing a film (which is Kim's own 3-Iron), maybe that explicit element of autobiography leads some to interpret the central female as being intended as a commentary on women in general, but I really saw it much more as a lamentation of the societal roles forced upon women, and the terrible psychological effects of that.
You might say he doesn't really identify with his female characters, which may be true. But as Dumont puts it: "Women exist in my imagination, so they are necessarily a type of abstraction." And, actually, I'd offer Samaritan Girl as pretty strong evidence to the contrary anyway.
What are your feelings on his work in general, Kino? Ratings and such...
Writing this has buoyed my anticipation for Breath.
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Post by RNL on Oct 27, 2007 0:58:11 GMT
A woman in a film is not necessarily representative of the broader concept of 'women'. Or do I just wish it were that simple? Am I wrong?
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Post by Capo on Oct 30, 2007 22:46:50 GMT
I've seen misogyny thrown at Scorsese and Hitchcock many times. It's true: both paint portraits of heavily patriarchal worlds. And so, because of that, why shouldn't they be accepted as such? Criticism shouldn't dismiss that, it should explore the world and learn from it, or analyse it, or comment on the gender politics within, perhaps not attaching it to the director, but analysing it for its intrinsic worth.
We live in a system of values obsessed with the author, with the authority behind a work. We're too obsessed in attaching works to external concepts, meanings, and I think a lot of criticism is because of that a whole lot of cringe-worthy garbage.
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Post by Capo on Oct 30, 2007 22:58:33 GMT
Anyway, at any rate, this guy really intrigues me.
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Post by svsg on Mar 25, 2008 3:19:53 GMT
I'll be watching Spring Summer.......... soon
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Post by svsg on Mar 26, 2008 4:20:03 GMT
Whoever has not watched Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter and Spring, watch it immediately. Cinema at its best. By end of fall, I was almost in tears. My detailed review will follow, hopefully soon.
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Post by Kino on Mar 26, 2008 4:53:01 GMT
I love it. It's hard for me to say if I'd still like it if I wasn't dabbling in Zen Buddhism.
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RNL
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Post by RNL on Mar 26, 2008 4:55:34 GMT
It's by far his most careful and polished-looking film.
I guess it had a lot more money behind it.
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Post by quentincompson on Nov 1, 2008 21:42:29 GMT
1.Spring,Summer,Fall,Winter...and Spring(2003) 6/10 2.3-Iron(2004) 4/10 3.Time(2006) 3/10 4.Address Unknown(2001) 2/10
Also Seen: Bad Guy(2001) The Isle(2000) Samaritan Girl(2004)
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Post by Anasazie on Nov 1, 2008 22:40:25 GMT
Passed up on seeing Breath, Time and The Isle recently. 1. Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter... and Spring (2003) 5/102. 3-Iron (2004) 3/10They were cute, I'd give 'em that much
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