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Post by RNL on Dec 13, 2005 23:40:22 GMT
Harmony Korine (1973- )1. Gummo (1997) 9/102. Julien Donkey-Boy (1999) 8/10
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Post by Capo on Feb 8, 2006 19:43:08 GMT
1. Julien Donkey-Boy 1999 2. Gummo 1997 3. Mister Lonely 2007 I've two questions. One: Are Korine and (Vincent) Gallo friends? Wouldn't surprise me. Two: Whether she's a rape victim, has HIV, is pregant or an albino, why do I always end up falling in love with Chloe Sevigny, America's most talented young actress?
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Post by RNL on Feb 8, 2006 20:32:54 GMT
I'd rank Gummo higher than Julien in terms of pure imagination, and Julien higher than Gummo in terms of cinematic invention.
Gallo and Korine had a bit of a feud, actually. It was pretty one-way, as I understand it, mainly Gallo's issue. It was something about Chloe Sevigny leaving Gallo for Korine.
As usual, Gallo runs his mouth off and says something rather silly: "Nobody will ever make an important movie because they saw Gummo or Julien Donkey-Boy."
Hmm...
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Post by Capo on Feb 8, 2006 21:20:58 GMT
Really?
Haha. Gotta love Gallo. Though they'll both be pissed off when Sevigny leaves them both for me.
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Post by Capo on Feb 15, 2006 14:37:17 GMT
I keep replaying a scene from Gummo over and over in my head, the one with the arm-wrestling in the kitchen area, and subsequent wrestling with the chair. It's unsettling, funny and real. When the guy kicks off after being beaten by the black dwarf, you really feel like it's an honest outburst, and he's unaware that he's being filmed.
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Post by RNL on Feb 15, 2006 14:41:34 GMT
I think it was, I think that was a real arm wrestle. Not quite improvised, just documented. Isn't there a pregnant woman in the room while they're throwing tables and chairs around?
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Post by Capo on Feb 15, 2006 14:59:11 GMT
Isn't there a pregnant woman in the room while they're throwing tables and chairs around? Not sure, but when the bearded guy starts to knee the back of it through, the first time I watched it, and even the second, more recent revisit, I was waiting for somebody to be seriously hurt at any moment. It's the kind of stuff you'd never see in other films, or at least not without edits, to make it look real while staying within safety limitations. As much as Gummo grasps you, though, the problem I had first time round was the deadpan presentation of such dislikeable characters. Or at least, the central two, riding around looking for stray cats to kill. It's something which I have, since then, sort of filtered out, and the reason why I appreciated it a lot more the second time round. Hopefully, when I come to revisit it again, it'll be totally gone. It's not as if any of the characters in Julien Donkey-Boy are entirely loveable; but there remains in that film a sense of eccentric charm, which only comes apart at the seams at the end with Spoilers the revelation of incest after that nasty, horrific fall on the ice rink Spoilers end. Gummo, though, presents very uncomfortable situations for us to sit through, almost for the "fun" of it (nothing wrong with that, necessarily). The example which comes to me most immediately is the father with the Down's Syndrome girl, on the bed. The way she's done up, and how she's prostituted out--or at least, that's what is implied, or how I've projected my own perceptions onto it. Is that what it's trying to do, that scene? Get us to think of how we would normally percieve this scene in its normal context? Are we victims of what Korine is not doing? I don't know. And because I don't know, it's an incredible, original film like no other.
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Post by RNL on Feb 15, 2006 16:29:07 GMT
That a father (I thought husband) would prostitute his mentally disabled daughter (or wife) to a pair of kids is an unpleasant thought, but Solomon's interaction with her is innocent and tender, with absolutely no sarcasm. It's an oblique kind of humanism that's much more interesting to me than the straightforward kind.
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Post by RNL on Nov 24, 2006 0:53:09 GMT
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Post by Capo on Nov 24, 2006 16:13:25 GMT
"Do you know Ruby Wax?"
"I've never met him."
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Post by Capo on Dec 12, 2006 1:50:43 GMT
Have you read Korine's book, Wet Dog? And is it any good?
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Post by RNL on Dec 12, 2006 2:01:35 GMT
I haven't read it. There's some excerpts here.
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Post by Capo on Apr 26, 2008 13:25:11 GMT
Just booked my ticket for Mister Lonely on the 8th May. It's a Q&A with local actress Melita Morgan (Madonna in the film), too. Wanted to see it on Wednesday 30th April, because "other cast members" are attending, too, but it's sold out.
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Post by Anasazie on Nov 15, 2008 13:21:04 GMT
1. Gummo (1997) 4/10 2. Mister Lonely (2007) 3/10
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