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Post by Michael on Nov 23, 2008 3:56:58 GMT
It's the biggest hit since Titanic. I was going to add another part to my previous post, and completely forgot what it was, but you've just reminded me! In 2nd grade I was the only kid in my class who hadn't seen Titanic, and I used to get made fun of for it. I still haven't seen it. ;D |
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Post by svsg on Nov 23, 2008 17:57:47 GMT
I mentioned this film to my Political Economy lecturer and got a look of complete incomprehension. She hadn't heard of it! She also lectures in some film modules. It's very, very strange. The advertising was everywhere. You couldn't look out your window for about three months without seeing a promo image. I think I even saw a Batsignal on the moon at one point. It's the biggest hit since Titanic. Probably the best reviewed film of the year. Heath Ledger, etc. A big Oscar push now. Weirdz. I too must have been sharing her cave, lol. I watched it very early, but only because a friend recommended it to me. I knew that a batman sequel was coming, but I didn't know that heath ledger was in it. In fact, the makeup was so much that even when I finished watching the movie, I didn't recognize him. Only later I found out. |
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Post by RNL on Nov 27, 2008 4:04:24 GMT
I just spent the last few hours writing an essay entitled "Reactionary Politics in The Dark Knight", due tomorrow morning this morning.
I pathologically leave things to the last minute.
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Post by svsg on Dec 11, 2008 6:17:21 GMT
This is a hot contender for golden globes according to news. Also another movie "milk" (never heard  ). Oscars follow similar patterns for nominations, no? |
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Post by Anasazie on Dec 11, 2008 6:33:37 GMT
Milk is the new Van Sant thing with Sean Penn.
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Post by jrod on Dec 11, 2008 16:54:01 GMT
Rather funny to see the IMDb Dark Knight boards after the film is "snubbed" with Golden Globe Nominations. Theyve been counting up their Oscars there since 2 months before the movie was in the theatres. Rude awakening.
Yahoo cracks me up. Their homepage "news" pretty much sucks everything it can out of TDK. The headline now is "Dark Knight only gets one nomination; as many as stoner comedy Pineapple Express". A month ago the headline was"Fans want Depp to Play Riddler". Great journalism guys, reporting on fan rumors for a movie that isn't even announced yet.
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Post by ronnierocketago on Dec 11, 2008 22:29:05 GMT
Rather funny to see the IMDb Dark Knight boards after the film is "snubbed" with Golden Globe Nominations. Theyve been counting up their Oscars there since 2 months before the movie was in the theatres. Rude awakening. Yahoo cracks me up. Their homepage "news" pretty much sucks everything it can out of TDK. The headline now is "Dark Knight only gets one nomination; as many as stoner comedy Pineapple Express". A month ago the headline was"Fans want Depp to Play Riddler". Great journalism guys, reporting on fan rumors for a movie that isn't even announced yet. What's this "Journalism" you speak of? You mean its not reporters simply reporting rumors as facts?  |
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Post by arkadyrenko on Jan 17, 2009 14:03:09 GMT
The way i see it, THE DARK KNIGHT has only one flaw: it's not 3 hours long.
There is no such thing as a too long good movie. Good movies are never too long, and bad movies are never too short.
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Post by svsg on Jan 17, 2009 16:08:36 GMT
Welcome to the boards arkadyrenko  For a moment, I thought you were RRA, you have very similar posting styles! |
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Post by Capo on Jan 17, 2009 17:18:14 GMT
Their IP addresses don't match.
And RRA never struck me as a Martin Cruz Smith fan.
EDIT: actually, Gorky Park seems his thing indeed. I'm sure he mentioned it once.
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Post by arkadyrenko on Jan 17, 2009 17:49:02 GMT
Hi guys, thanks for the warm welcome.
No, I and RRA are not the same person. But we are long time online pals, and our tastes do over-lap quite a lot. Rarely i have found myself disagreeing with RRA. It's uncanny.
Though i have to say, Ronnie has a far more tolerance to trash action movies then i do. For example, he finds enjoyment in Steven Segal movies which i could only get under torture and brainwashing, if you know what i mean. Though UNDER SIEGE is not half bad!
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Post by ronnierocketago on Jan 18, 2009 7:36:56 GMT
Their IP addresses don't match. And RRA never struck me as a Martin Cruz Smith fan. EDIT: actually, Gorky Park seems his thing indeed. I'm sure he mentioned it once. GORKY PARK was a pretty good detective story, if with the twist that its a Soviet cop in Moscow. I recommend it. Though how the fuck did Michael Apted go from directing that to the meh THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH? Tsk Tsk Tsk (and I know my #1 fan arkadyrenko liked TWINE.) |
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Post by ronnierocketago on Jan 18, 2009 7:38:59 GMT
Hi guys, thanks for the warm welcome. No, I and RRA are not the same person. But we are long time online pals, and our tastes do over-lap quite a lot. Rarely i have found myself disagreeing with RRA. It's uncanny. Oh REALLY? I thought THE INCREDIBLE HULK was a decent action movie, didn't you think it sucked? Though i have to say, Ronnie has a far more tolerance to trash action movies then i do. For example, he finds enjoyment in Steven Segal movies which i could only get under torture and brainwashing, if you know what i mean. Though UNDER SIEGE is not half bad! I guess I'm just an action nerd. I can't help it, for if an action does enough, I seem to enjoy it regardless. Its like Ebert, always a sucker for those pulpy matinee-inspired pictures like the lame THE PHANTOM and the dull THE SHADOW. |
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Post by arkadyrenko on Jan 18, 2009 14:13:31 GMT
I don't think THE INCREIBLE HULK sucks, i just think it's a movie a little bit above MEH. I really liked Ang Lee's HULK far better then this remake/re-imagining/re-washing.
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Post by jrod on Jan 29, 2009 17:17:57 GMT
As much as I generally like Ebert, he shouldnt be speaking for an art form without really doing the research.
His discussion about Dark Knight being "more than a comic book movie" because of its dark themes, or todays new article about Ledger's reimagining of the Joker into a new level is kind of disrespectful to the source material. This movie explores NOTHING new. All the Two Face origin is much more coherent and interesting in THE LONG HALLOWEEN. All the tradegy stuff is better handeled in A DEATH IN THE FAMILY. I could go on.
Sure it was dark and gritty, but the comic industry has had Batman that way since the early 80s. Ledger's performance directly corrolates with Brian Azzerelos THE JOKER book and Alan Moores THE KILLING JOKE. He did it very well and probably deserves the Oscar.
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Post by arkadyrenko on Jan 29, 2009 17:53:35 GMT
The comic industry, yes. But the comic book movies, no. And this is what Ebert is saying. He's talking about comic book movies. So, when he says "“Batman” isn’t a comic book anymore", he's refering to the part movie incarnations of Batman, which were comic book movies through and through, even if they might have in them some dark themes, like in BATMAN RETURNS.
Ebert is talking about movies, man, as he would.
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Post by jrod on Jan 29, 2009 18:07:34 GMT
What did this explore that makes it so much more matured then its predecessor, Batman Begins? Do we not care about the characters? Does it not contain tradegy?
I liked both a lot, but I thought Nolans first effort was a lot less messy.
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Post by arkadyrenko on Jan 29, 2009 18:18:52 GMT
The themes explored in TDK are a bit more mature, in that while the first movie BATMAN BEGINS (which i adore, by the way), the theme is a bit more circunspect and particular (it's mostly to do with a man, Bruce Wayne, to come out of his personal shell and fight the good fight, and to learn the difference between fgihting the good fight with morals or just being a complete "end-justify-the-means" person, and as such, falls into another kind of evil, as bad as the evil he was trying to fight in the first place.
But TDK is no longer about the matters of one person, or two, or the main characters. The stuff just became bigger. It's about the very things that are the fundation of our morality as a collection of people living together and who call ourselves citizens of a city, a country, the world. BB might had beena bout individuals who did things for the others, but TDK is about the collective morality of EVERYBODY.
As such, it's more mature, because it's about a subject that's more then just individualism. As an european and a british, it's quite natural for the Nolans to tap into such subjects, and to dwell on them, while turning them into a piece of entertainment.
And that's just one of the reasosn why it's more mature. But don't take me wrong, i ADORE BATMAN BEGINS and it is a great movie, the best comic book movie ever done until TDK.
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Post by jrod on Jan 29, 2009 18:53:54 GMT
I think I would certainley disagree that something is more mature because it is on an epic, global scale instead of a personal one.
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Post by arkadyrenko on Jan 30, 2009 18:24:56 GMT
When the subject is about mankind instead of just the problems of one or two people, then yes, it is more mature.
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