Capo
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Post by Capo on Dec 8, 2008 13:30:33 GMT
You'll have to help me out with the "socialist overtones", though, wetdog. I just see it in the focus. Mills, fields, migrant workers, WW1, and a clear emphasis on class conflict, backgrounding the [...] story. Yes. I thought you might have been seeing something more directly impacting on the story's events, not just contextual milieu. What do you make of Bill as opportunist? Is it there to add balance ("Nobody's perfect...")? Are we supposed to like him, do you think? Is it any more immoral than the mass exploitation of the migrant workers? Does Malick have more faith in Bill or The Farmer, as key to Abby's lasting happiness? Does it even matter? She certainly seems better off with The Farmer, as "Rebecca" seems better off with Rolfe than with Smith, in The New World... as Holly seems better off with Kit than with her father in Badlands?
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Post by RNL on Dec 9, 2008 0:00:29 GMT
I just mean in the wider scenario, the presentation of those details can't be much other than a broad indictment.
I'd have to watch it again to comment on the characters much, it's been too long.
(I edited out my decontextualised sarcasm.)
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Post by Capo on Dec 9, 2008 0:31:22 GMT
Ever the self-imagist.
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Post by Anasazie on Dec 9, 2008 9:06:43 GMT
The onslaught of the industrial revolution (as shown in the very first image), an all consuming new kind of capitalist machine and with it the death of truly being able to live off the land, of any real equality or communal way of working. Malick obviously saw it as a pivotal point in history, the beginning of the modern world and indivdualistic (not a word) way of living that he's so obviously against.
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Post by Capo on Dec 9, 2008 18:33:18 GMT
indivdualistic (not a word) At least not with that spelling; ahem! ;D
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Post by Anasazie on Dec 9, 2008 22:46:46 GMT
Oh....yup.....embarrassing.....sometimes i type too fast!
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