Kino
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Post by Kino on Apr 16, 2008 23:31:35 GMT
Jeanne Dielman, 23 Quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles One of the all-time greatest, IMHO. Where does this rank among his other work especially Thieves, My Favorite Season, and Wild Reeds?
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Post by Capo on Apr 16, 2008 23:36:14 GMT
But, I'm thinking about The Wire most. I just finished a Season 4 rewatch and the run from Episode 6 to 13 has me shaken up and marvelling at its balls, content, themes, scope, and artistry. Might just be my favorite thing ever. Well if we're going down that route, I feel the same way for seasons 6A and 6B of Sopranos.
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Post by seyfried on Apr 16, 2008 23:46:25 GMT
It's not my favorite Akerman ("News from Home"), but yes, it's rather incredible.
I haven't seen My Favorite Season, and a poor copy of Thieves - but it's certainly better than that. I'll give you Wild Reeds (which has one of my favorite endings), but other than that, and I've only seen a few others of his, it's probably going to be among his best. The interesting thing about his work (and about a lot of the post-Cahieur writers) is that you can really tell they were critics.
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Post by Kino on Apr 16, 2008 23:53:11 GMT
News From Home is striking. I like to think of a Sans Soleil and News From Home double bill.
Speaking of post-Cahiers writers, you like Assayas, seyfried?
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Post by seyfried on Apr 17, 2008 0:00:59 GMT
Yeah, those two definitely have the whole ethnographic "West Banke-feel" (even though Chantal is Belgian)...not to mention outstanding (quasi-)contrapuntal narration.
I liked Assayas's Clean, though most of that was an undying love for Cheung's performance. Other than that...I'm running blanks. Any recommendations/thoughts?
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Post by Kino on Apr 17, 2008 0:14:04 GMT
Yeah, Cheung and Nolte were the best parts of the movie which could've been better.
The only Assayas that I'd recommend wholesale is Irma Vep (with Cheung in an arguably top-3 Cheung performance).
Demonlover is another rather highly regarded Assayas. Didn't hate it or love it.
I want to get my hands on Cold Water which seems to be thought of as one of the best movies of the 90s.
Edit: Assayas is pretty versatile though taking into account Les Destinees and Late August, Early September. Looks like he's back in the neighborhood of Demonlover with Boarding Gate.
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Post by svsg on Apr 17, 2008 5:21:04 GMT
Anyone else wanna chime in with their current films? The last few weeks (literally complete days) of my thoughts have been totally dominated by Antonioni's films. I just can't get any of them out of my mind. He is my current favorite and seems to have impacted me like no other director before. Don't know how long it will last though. Le Amiche L'Avventura L'Notte L'Eclisse Passenger There are no more films in my "current" memory.
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Post by Michael on Jul 10, 2008 8:20:14 GMT
Anyone else wanna chime in with their current films? (Forget the solidified drivel; ten films you've been thinking of more than any others lately.) 1. In The Mood For Love 2. Barry Lyndon 3. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford 4. Persona 5. Pierrot le Fou 6. Mother and Son 7. Masculin Feminin 8. No Country for Old Men 9. The Lion King 10. Blue Velvet
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Post by Boz on Jul 29, 2008 6:47:04 GMT
Heat Traffic Barry Lyndon Punch-Drunk Love A Clockwork Orange
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Post by Kino on Jul 31, 2008 23:55:06 GMT
Anyone else wanna chime in with their current films? (Forget the solidified drivel; ten films you've been thinking of more than any others lately.) 1. In The Mood For Love Took you long enough to see it! I haven't shown it in my current lists that I've posted the last few months, but it probably is my favorite movie of all-time.
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Post by Michael on Oct 12, 2008 19:27:21 GMT
What an all-time list might look like for me as of now:
1. Eloge de l'amour (Godard) 2. Stalker (Tarkovsky) 3. Pierrot le Fou (Godard) 4. Dead Man (Jarmusch) 5. Paris, Texas (Wenders) 6. Aguirre, der Zorn Gottes (Herzog) 7. Mat i Syn (Sokurov) 8. Vivre sa Vie: Film en Douze Tableaux (Godard) 9. In the Mood for Love (Wong) 10. A Short Film About Killing (Kieslowski)
11. Journal d'un cure de Campagne (Bresson)
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Post by pimppanda on Oct 13, 2008 23:06:23 GMT
1. A Brighter Summer Day 2. Tokyo Story 3. Andrei Rublev 4. Lancelot of the Lake 5. Sansho the Bailiff 6. Satantango 7. Syndromes and a Cetnury 8. A City of Sadness or The Puppetmaster 9. The Rules of the Game 10. Eden and After
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Post by Anasazie on Nov 1, 2008 5:33:24 GMT
I don't think I'll ever quite understand the difference between a 'favourites' list and a 'best' list for people who aspire (I assume) to lucid viewing. Favourites are the films you 'like' the most. Bests, as far as I can figure, involve the adoption of some external value system. I don't see the merit in that. To me, the best films I've ever seen are my favourites, and my favourite films are the best I've ever seen. I guess that's a hardcore relativist stance, but I'm not comfortable evaluating art based on criteria conceived externally by someone else - a hand-me-down aesthetic. I couldn't possibly agree more with this argument!
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Post by Blib on Nov 1, 2008 7:09:47 GMT
Yay! Let's start up this discussion again since I missed out the first time around.
*MODS GROAN*
I agree with what Wetdog said as welll... "favorites are the films you 'like' the most" while "bests... involve the adoption of some external system".
While there may be no merit in that second reason I believe it is something to take into consideration when making recommendations to others. Many on this board could easily suggest films to the casual moviegoer or film critic, but the suggestion would be received with negative feedback. Mainly because everyone here has incredibly open/fucked up love for films that the majority of people don't.
I have always differentiated between favorites and bests because I was insecure of who was listening to what I had to recommend. I came to this board and gave my top ten favorites and people here questioned it. I didn't know how to defend it, although thanks to this board I'm learning how and as a result my tastes in movies are slightly changing.
Screw it, I was all motivated when I started this post but I've had too much to drink and I don't know what the hell I'm talking about anymore. I just want there to be a good conversation here on FCM again. It seems like there hasn't been a very good one in a while.
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Post by svsg on Nov 1, 2008 15:00:10 GMT
Amazing! No typos even when you are drunk! When suggesting movies to my friends, I always suggest them what is considered best by others. Most people don't like my favorite films. But agree with wetdog, I personally have only one list - that of my favorites.
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Post by Blib on Nov 1, 2008 17:50:34 GMT
Have you posted a top ten recently svsg? I would like to see it. I have been watching nothing but The Wire lately so I need to watch a movie to take a break.
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Post by svsg on Nov 1, 2008 19:19:42 GMT
Have you posted a top ten recently svsg? I would like to see it. I have been watching nothing but The Wire lately so I need to watch a movie to take a break. I'll post one in a couple of weeks. I have a few movies in mind, but I want to revisit them to see if they are really as great as I remember them to be.
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Post by Anasazie on Nov 1, 2008 23:02:29 GMT
What an all-time list might look like for me as of now: 1. Eloge de l'amour (Godard) 2. Stalker (Tarkovsky) 3. Pierrot le Fou (Godard) 4. Dead Man (Jarmusch) 5. Paris, Texas (Wenders) 6. Aguirre, der Zorn Gottes (Herzog) 7. Mat i Syn (Sokurov) 8. Vivre sa Vie: Film en Douze Tableaux (Godard) 9. In the Mood for Love (Wong) 10. A Short Film About Killing (Kieslowski) 11. Journal d'un cure de Campagne (Bresson) Wow, your list shifts and changes a lot. Only 3 films left from a list you posted 3 months before and the number 1 film from that previous list has dropped 8 places. What gives?
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Post by Michael on Nov 2, 2008 2:47:22 GMT
The one posted 3 months previous was a momentary list, not an all-time list, as shown by Capo's quote.
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Post by Anasazie on Nov 2, 2008 3:23:40 GMT
Oh ok, missed that part as it says Top 10 films at the top of the thread and just assumed all of them were for all time. My bad. What did you like about Jesse James? Or was it on your mind because it made you angry at how bad it was and how confused you were by the praise....like myself!
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