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Post by bobbyreed on Sept 17, 2008 6:22:37 GMT
It's intentional, I'm assuming.
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Post by Omar on Oct 15, 2008 16:45:23 GMT
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Post by Anasazie on Oct 21, 2008 9:27:31 GMT
Features:
1. Vivre sa vie (1962) [blue]10/10[/blue] 2. Le Mépris (1963) [blue]10/10[/blue] 3. 2 or 3 Things I Know About Her (1967) [blue]10/10[/blue] 4. Chosen Moments from the History of Cinema (2004) [blue]9.5/10[/blue] 5. Here & Elsewhere (1976) [blue]9.5/10[/blue] 6. Alphaville (1965) [blue]9/10[/blue] 7. Sauve qui peut (la vie) (1980) [blue]9/10[/blue] 8. Made in U.S.A. (1966) [blue]9/10[/blue] 9. Breathless (1960) [blue]9/10[/blue] 10. In Praise of Love (2001) [blue]9/10[/blue] 11. Masculin féminin (1966) [blue]9/10[/blue] 12. Notre musique (2004) [blue]9/10[/blue] 13. Prénom Carmen (1983) [blue]9/10[/blue] 14. La Chinoise (1967) [blue]9/10[/blue] 15. One Plus One a.k.a Sympathy for the Devil (1968) [blue]8.5/10[/blue] 16. Hail Mary (1985) [blue]8/10[/blue] 17. A Woman is a Woman (1961) [blue]8/10[/blue] 18. Pierrot le fou (1965) [blue]8/10[/blue] 19. The Married Woman (1964) 8/10 20. Les Carabiniers (1963) [blue]8/10[/blue] 21. Oh Woe is Me (1993) [blue]7/10[/blue] 22. Le Petit soldat (1963) [blue]7/10[/blue] 23. Letter to Jane (1972) [blue]7/10[/blue] 24. Bande à part (1964) [blue]7/10[/blue] 25. Le gai savoir (1969) [blue]6/10[/blue] 26. Tout va bien (1972) [blue]6/10[/blue] 27. Passion (1982) [blue]5/10[/blue] 28. Détective (1985) [blue]5/10[/blue]
Shorts:
1. Ro.Go.Pa.G. (Segment: "New World") (1963) [blue]7.5/10[/blue] 2. Paris vu par... (Segment: "Montparnasse-Levallois") (1965) [blue]6.5/10[/blue] 3. Charlotte et Véronique, ou Tous les garçons s'appellent Patrick (1959) [blue]6/10[/blue]
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Post by Michael on Oct 21, 2008 19:57:11 GMT
18. Pierrot le fou (1965) [blue]8/10[/blue] Finally.
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Post by Anasazie on Oct 23, 2008 7:08:00 GMT
Yeah and i was a little disappointed too. Had no emotional response to it and although i think it's clever, true and very original, i just found it a little too pleased with itself. I think New Rose Hotel is a more thrilling deconstruction of the cinematic devices and never would've guessed i'd be trumping a Ferrara film over a Godard one!
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Post by Michael on Oct 23, 2008 18:38:16 GMT
I think the film is incredibly wide-ranging, in terms of politics, relationships, cinema, etc. It's a whole lot to take in on the first viewing, and I was a bit underwhelmed the first time I saw it as well. Is there a chance you'll watch it again?
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Post by quentincompson on Oct 23, 2008 20:45:46 GMT
Yeah and i was a little disappointed too. Had no emotional response to it and although i think it's clever, true and very original, i just found it a little too pleased with itself. I think New Rose Hotel is a more thrilling deconstruction of the cinematic devices and never would've guessed i'd be trumping a Ferrara film over a Godard one! I found it pretty easy to connect with the character's inability to truly escape society. The commentary on violence was as thought provoking as anything else he's made IMO.
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Post by quentincompson on Oct 23, 2008 20:58:02 GMT
Featuers
1.Masculin feminin(1966) 10/10 2.Vivre sa vie(1962) 10/10 3.Alphaville(1965) 10/10 4.Pierrot le fou(1965) 9/10 5.Le Mepris(1963) 9/10 6.2 or 3 Things I Know About Her(1967) 9/10 7.Je vous salue, Marie(1985) 8/10 8.In Praise of Love(2001) 8/10 9.A Married Woman(1964) 8/10 10.Weekend(1967) 7/10 11.Bande a parte(1964) 7/10 12.A Woman is a Woman(1961) 7/10 13.Les carabiniers(1963) 7/10 14.Breathless(1960) 7/10 15.Le petit soldat(1963) 7/10 16.Tout va bien(1972)5/10 17.Passion(1982) 5/10
Shorts
1.Charlotte et Veronique(1959) 5/10 2.Meeeting W.A.(1986) 3/10
Also seen: Sympathy for the Devil(1968) La Chinoise(1967) Notre musique(1964)
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Post by Anasazie on Oct 24, 2008 6:49:13 GMT
Nice to see you on board QC......
Don't get me wrong guys, i still think it's a great film, an 8 rating means i think it's a great film. I agree that it attempts to be very wide reaching and does so in a quite brilliant, highly original way, but i don't think it explores a lot of its mass of ideas particularly deeply. I also found Karina quite detached in the film and really believe that their relationship troubles of the time have diminished the film's emotional impact. Almost like Godard was being TOO intellectual to defend and repress his feelings.
I did actually watch it twice DVC due to feeling i'd missed something the first time, but alas had a lack of an emotional connection to it the second viewing also. Anyway, each to his own and i wish i loved it as much as you guys.
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Post by Michael on Oct 24, 2008 8:38:56 GMT
1. Vivre sa Vie: Film en Douze Tableaux (1962) ***** 2. 2 or 3 Things I Know About Her (1967) ***** 3. Weekend (1967) ***** 4. Contempt (1963) ***** 5. Masculin Feminin (1966) ***** 6. Pierrot le Fou (1965) ***** 7. Eloge de L'amour (2001) ***** 8. A bout de souffle (1959) ****
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Post by quentincompson on Oct 24, 2008 18:04:58 GMT
Can't argue with not being able to connect with, I think it's inevitable with someone as far reaching as Godard that there will be some disagreement, but that's why he's so great. Also for the fact that in 10 years time I know I'll be able to revisit them all and they'll be like completely different films I'm sure.
I do agree with you on Karina's performance. It is more bitter in it's Zolaesqe portrayal of things than Vivre sa vie but in a way it's all the more tragic and true, not as romanticized.
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Post by Michael on Oct 24, 2008 19:29:05 GMT
Can't argue with not being able to connect with, I think it's inevitable with someone as far reaching as Godard that there will be some disagreement, but that's why he's so great. Also for the fact that in 10 years time I know I'll be able to revisit them all and they'll be like completely different films I'm sure. I do agree with you on Karina's performance. It is more bitter in it's Zolaesqe portrayal of things than Vivre sa vie but in a way it's all the more tragic and true, not as romanticized. Welcome to the boards. I enjoy your contributions.
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Post by Anasazie on Nov 26, 2008 4:51:29 GMT
Out of all the more famous directors on this board, it's interesting to see that it's the Godard thread that has the most posts and the most views by far. Whatever you might think about the guys work, he's obviously got you all talking and thinking about it.......the highest goal of all artists surely?
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Post by Michael on Dec 8, 2008 19:40:20 GMT
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Post by theundergroundman on Jan 12, 2009 0:58:55 GMT
1. Pierrot le fou (1965) - 10/10 2. Vivre sa vie (1962) - 10/10 3. Contempt (1963) - 10/10 4. Week End (1967) - 9/10 5. Two or Three Things I Know About Her (1967) - 9/10 6. Masculin Feminin (1966) - 9/10 7. Breathless (1960) - 9/10 8. Alphaville (1965) - 9/10 9. Here and Elsewhere (1976) - [blue]8.5/10[/blue] 10. La Chinoise (1967) - 8/10 11. Les Carabiniers (1963) - 8/10 12. Notre Musique (2004) - 8/10 13. In Praise of Love (2001) - 8/10 14. First Name: Carmen (1983) - 8/10 15. A Married Woman (1964) - 8/10 16. Hail Mary (1984) - [blue]8/10[/blue] 17. Made in U.S.A. (1966) - 8/10 18. Band of Outsiders (1964) - 7/10 19. The Little Soldier (1960) - 7/10 20. Sympathy For the Devil (1968) - 7/10 21. Le Gai Savoir (1969) - 6/10 22. A Woman is a Woman (1961) - 6/10 23. Pravda (1970) - 5/10 24. Keep Your Right Up (1987) - 5/10
Shorts:
1. Operation Beton (1954) - [blue]6/10[/blue] 2. All the Boys Are Called Patrick (1959) - 5/10 3. Meetin' WA (1987) - 5/10
Also watched:
Detective (1984)
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Post by quentincompson on Feb 2, 2009 4:32:19 GMT
This is actually one of my favorite scenes in the film. The one that bores me the most is when Corrine is talking about her erotic "dream." I felt that scene was longer than it needed to be. Like much of Godard's dialogue (especially in Weekend), the text from that scene was lifted straight from a novel (you'll have to forgive me, I've blanked on the novel!). I think that that inter-textuality is one of the main reasons for the extreme length of that scene. The dialogue is from Bataille's 'Story of the Eye.'
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Post by svsg on Apr 2, 2009 16:45:22 GMT
Pierrot le Fou I want to believe that he was trying to convey something great and I missed it. I also want to believe that he is not an art-house Tarantino.
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Post by Anasazie on Apr 3, 2009 10:25:25 GMT
Anasazie sighs while rolling his eyes......
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Post by svsg on Apr 3, 2009 14:05:45 GMT
svsg sighs too, but his eyes remain fixed
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Post by quentincompson on Apr 3, 2009 14:49:19 GMT
If you're really that interested in understanding his films your best bet would be to try to find a book on Godard at a university library. Although a lot of what they say will probably be impertinent it might help to get your mind in the right place.
And based on your ratings Band a parte and A Woman Is A Woman should probably be the next attempts, if there are any.
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